Followers . If you ask about the crime and the Forsworn, they tell you that the Forsworn are nothing but a bunch of madmen, and to mind your own business. His/her ID will show up at the top of the console command window. MS01. Eltrys is dead, and I've been framed for his murder. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. If you do not step in, the guards will kill Weylin, who defiantly exclaims, "I die for my people." After a man called Weylin shouts, "The Reach belongs to the Forsworn! Read Weylin's Note 10. Reviews: 4. And then do the guards respawn? If you do not step in, the guards will kill Weylin, who defiantly exclaims, "I die for my people." The Dragonborn can bribe one of the guards to remove the bounty by being part of the Thieves Guild or having the speech ability to bribe guards. When doing the Forsworn Conspiracy, everything goes as according to plan. He informs them that they will pin all the murders and troubles made on the Dragonborn. Upon entering Markarth a violent scene will unfold. So i was wandering around skyrim just clearing out my misc quests. Madanach has now become "out of control", however. When I witnessed this, I immediately killed the man and then there is a whole scene of guards coming and talking and saying that the problem is dealt with, etc. Doesn't life just fly by? While walking through the open market in Markarth, a woman named Margret is viciously attacked while buying jewelry. He wants me to meet him at the Shrine of Talos, presumably to talk about the recent murder in Markarth's marketplace. They will then attempt to apprehend the Dragonborn on sight. If you then proceed to pickpocket Thonar's journal before entering the Shrine of Talos, you will find Eltrys's dead body and three guards who will arrest you for his murder as well as the other murders around the city (even though no one else has died), thus completing a quest which never started. Despite a message saying that the last witness was killed and the bounty removed, any Markarth guard that the Dragonborn talks to will arrest them and throw them into Cidhna Mine. Travel to the shrine underneath the Temple of Dibella. heck yea i am!' Once again major spoilers. Dryston will go to Weylin's room and sit in a chair. Follow 1376. 9 years ago. 0. When you enter the venerable financial institution, Rhiada will be at the front desk. 95. Read Margret's Journal 7. The Dragonborn can also speak to his daughter, rent the room for 10 gold, bribe, intimidate, persuade, or pickpocket Kleppr to get the key. He will curse the Forsworn, and then tell you that he has been controlling them by imprisoning their king Madanach. It may also be possible that no guards will appear in the shrine at all after this point. Thonar's wife is murdered by Nana Ildene, at which point Donnel will join in the attack. I get sent to jail normally and "The Forsworn Conspiracy" quest never completes, and "No One Escapes from Cidhna Mine" never starts. Up vote (0) LO. He told me to make sure you didn't get in the way. Suddenly, there is a disturbance—Thonar will call out to his wife, Betrid, who has fallen victim to Nana Ildene and Donnel, the supposed cleaning crew for the Treasury House. Upon completion of any task. She apparently rented the nicest room in the inn, which is down the hall to the left of the entrance. I've received a note from a man named Eltrys in Markarth. In the event that the Dragonborn is able to kill Donnel and Nana Ildene before this point of the quest, she will still die despite never having been attacked. If Nana Ildene and Donnel die before you talk to Thonar, Betrid will die without anyone being there to kill her. Your dialogue choices all end with Nepos admitting that he is indeed Forsworn. She was hoping to procure the deed to Cidhna Mine for the Imperials. Side quest In the ensuing confusion, the guards are curt as they try to quell the small crowd that has gathered. Following Eltrys' suspicions that Thonar and the Treasury House are involved in this conspiracy should be your next stop. After leaving the inn with your information about Margret, a Markarth City guard will try to warn you off your investigations. Not sure. Upon entering the Shrine of Talos, you will find Eltrys dead, but the guards will not arrest you for the murder. If I let the Forsworns live, do they only kill Thonar and the guards or also important people? If you attack Dryston with anything but your fists (i.e., weapons or magic), you will receive a bounty and any guards that witness the fight will attack you. This arrest-on-sight status will persist permanently in Markarth until you submit to going to jail. If you enter the shrine at any time after this quest is completed, they will accuse you of conspiracy. When you enter Thonar's room he doesn't seem alarmed to see you and you may speak to him about Margret, the Forsworn, or the guards that are harassing you. At the moment that the attacker draws his weapon, the Markarth City Guards rush towards the attacker and slay him. Re: The Forsworn Conspiracy … Markarth Head down to the Warrens, and talk to Garvey. If you question him about the note, he feigns innocence. As soon as the conversation is finished, there is a commotion outside in the main room. Step 2: Kill guards in Markarth until you get "Forsworn Conspiracy: Completed" to pop up. Type It doesn't work. ", Player: "Madanach is behind these killings!" Display results as threads Return to the Shrine of Talos to meet Eltrys, and find three guards standing over Eltrys' body. Fighting them will not prevent the next quest, "No One Escapes Cidhna Mine," with the exception of attacking them before any conversation takes place and killing all of them. It's a life sentence in Cidhna Mine for you. He pleads for your help; find out why Weylin attacked Margret and who is behind all of this. At the end of The Forsworn Conspiracy, what happens if i kill the guards inside the shrine of Talos? Lingering too long after the theft here will result in everyone becoming hostile. From here, continue on with your investigation into Thonar. With Margret alive, if the player talks with her before talking to. Silence them and you will be able to question Thonar in return. You'll have plenty of time to take it up with the King in Rags while you're serving a life sentence in Cidhna Mine.". Next Quest The following empty quest stages were omitted from the table: 0, 10, 12, 13, 32, 37, 39, 41, 42, 43, 45, 49, 50, 52, 54, 57, 60, 61, 72, 74, 82, 90. Talk to Margret (optional, if alive) 6. But keep your hands to yourselves. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following: *Disclosure: Some of the links above are affiliate links, meaning, at no additional cost to you, Fandom will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase. Forum Posts. The Dragonborn can end up in Cidhna Mine and still maintain a 0 septim life-time bounty. If you enter Markarth for the first time while completing the. The residents also have good loot on them to either take after killing them or to pickpocket. Any method of avoiding jail time will be rendered useless against Markarth guards after Eltrys is killed. He will tell you that he's commanding the Forsworn. If you give Margret's journal to Eltrys before leaving the Shrine of Talos and immediately after taking the quest, it will be bugged when reentering the temple of Talos to return the clues you found. Otherwise the Dragonborn must ask the barkeeper Kleppr about Margret. — Unsigned comment by 98.210.200.191 at 03:27 on 27 December 2011 The door can also be opened by picking the lock. It was a while ago but I believe I tried doing something to make any guard arrest me and send me to prison. Go kill a guard, then leave the hold and fast travel back and let them arrest you. So what happened before? If the Dragonborn speaks to Thonar, it is not possible to save his wife; her death is scripted. If evidence is discovered about Nepos or Thonar before receiving the reward, the next quest stage will be triggered without receiving the reward. Reading it again doesn't update the journal, but the next quest stage (the brawl) does. If you choose to go to jail, you will not be able to gain entrance to the King in Rags' cell to continue the quest. Followers may get permanently stuck in the Shrine of Talos, regardless of whether or not the quest is completed and you escaped from Cidhna Mine. Work. You can ask him how to find the shrine, and while he is still elusive, he will say: "Huh. Work. Enter it and look in the chest for a note addressed to Weylin. Apparently, Margret is an Imperial spy working with General Tullius to investigate the Treasury House and the Silver-Blood family. If you search Margret's body, take the key to her room for use later in the quest, although you will be able to acquire it later on from the Silver-Blood Inn innkeeper. ", Player: "What did you do to Eltrys?" Anyone else have trouble with The Forsworn Conspiracy? You will now gain the objective "Find out who N is". In your investigations thus far, you have learned that Weylin worked as a smelter at Cidhna Mine and lived in the Warrens—a public house for the city's destitute. I can't believe it has been nearly a year since I last posted here. Descend into the temple and speak to Eltrys, who has been looking for answers about the Forsworn attacks that have been happening in the city, ever since his father was killed by the Forsworn and that he has been trying his whole life to find out why, and why the guards do nothing about it. Eltrys Thonar gets up and runs down the hall where there's fighting going on. I'm new to Neoseeker, so...yeah. However, if the city's allegiance (Imperial or Stormcloaks) changes during this part of the quest, it will be completed and the guards will vanish from the game, making it impossible to start No One Escapes From Cidhna Mine. Going to jail will still begin No One Escapes Cidhna Mine. ", he attempts to kill a woman named Margret. Eltrys ends up being dead by the hand of the [ [Markarth]] guards and you are arrested for his murder then sent to [ [Cidhna Mine]]. I read about the glitch and that you can overcome it by pausing 24hrs and then talk to on of the guards to get the quest fixed. The attack on Betrid can be avoided by pickpocketing Thonar's journal without speaking to him. Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:44 am. She is also sure that Thonar Silver-Blood arranged for her murder. They forsworn were supposed to kill all the guards in town after the quest so ya it must be broke. Once inside, Thonar is sitting at the table. The three guards from the previous quest "The Forsworn Conspiracy," will still be there, and the middle guard will engage in the same conversation as at the end of that quest. At the Shrine of Talos, Eltrys explains that his father was killed by the Forsworn and that he has been trying his whole life to find out why. Met with Madanach,killed him and every forsworn in the jail, escaped,got my stuff back. This is a gameplay script exclusive to this mission. It is possible to keep Betrid Silver-Blood, Nana Ildene, and Donnel alive after completion of this quest. Using the Voice of the Emperor, It is not necessary to complete all objectives to advance the quest to the final stage. Community content is available under. I've noticed some other threads with this issue, but I figured I would make one that was more specific to my problem inca But I want to kill him, I don't want to part of the Forsworn and I don't want to battle the people and guards in Markarth. Entering these console commands will cause Weylin to attack Margret: If you become a Thane of the Reach before starting or completing this quest, you will not be arrested when you return to the Shrine of Talos, making you unable to complete the quest. Read the note to learn that Weylin truly was not acting alone, and that some anonymous puppet-master named only "N" was directing Weylin's actions. The other two guards will attack you, and because you are in conversation, there is no way to fight back, so be prepared. Once the player wakes up, open the console again, and type: "setstage ms02 0," which will force the next quest, No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, to begin." Thonar is located in the Treasury House. Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Find evidence about Nepos 12. Major bug with 'The Forsworn Conspiracy' ... but I opted to kill them after reloading and then was arrested after leaving the temple. You can report back to Eltrys with your information about Margret for a leveled gold reward, or continue researching Weylin and Thonar before going back to Eltrys. as he stabs her in the back. It is impossible to get your reward after you meet with, Eltrys's dead body can be un-vanished and looted using the console with. "In the name of the Jorl, I am ordering you to stand fast!" Garvey can be bribed, intimidated, pickpocketed, or persuaded to hand the key over. Any text displayed in angle brackets (e.g.. Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done. As you try to leave, quite unexpectedly a group of mage-assassins will rush into the house and kill Thonar's wife (screen above). You can chat with him for a bit about the assault, but then he will suddenly say, "Oh, I think you dropped this. Killed them all. He wants me to meet him at the Shrine of Talos, presumably to talk about the recent murder in Markarth's marketplace. Is the whole city involve in this conspiracy? If the Dragonborn has a high bounty, Betrid Silver-Blood and other characters will become hostile towards the Dragonborn, but this can be fixed with a basic calm spell. You know the mission where you're framed and taken to Cidhna Mine? There is no option to avoid the brawl; defeat Dryston, and he confesses that he was sent by Nepos the Nose, or "N." The quest log updates to finding evidence about Nepos. The three guards from the previous quest "The Forsworn Conspiracy," will still be there, and the middle guard will engage in the same conversation as at the end of that quest. Guard: "You think you're the only one who knows that? Dryston also carries a note confirming it was Nepos that directed him to "rough you up". I always try not to kill anyone if I can help it (just out of kindness and I dont want to kill an important person by accident) anyways I reloaded and pickpocket the diary off of him and he's alive. Heres the problem, HE WONT GODDAM DIE. --that stupid line. Weylin's room is to the rear of the Warrens, on the right-hand side. Ever since I left the town, each guard in Morkoth repeats the same dialogue from the time you are arrested. If Margret is dead, and the Dragonborn obtained Margret's room key from her body, the room can be approached directly. Thonar is paying you." There will only be two guards and if you talk to the one on the right, he talks as if he is guarding a Dwemer museum and will not initiate any conversation about the murder. This paints the setting of apprehension which has rippled throughout the city. And bodies don't get found in the Warrens Storm: At least let me stay a day longer. You can also try to pickpocket Nepos's journal to gather the evidence secretly and avoid the fight. We had a nice little deal going between Thonar and Madanach until you and Eltrys started snooping around. Margret about to be stabbed by Weylin in the Markarth market. Two of the respawned guards will attack on sight, and one will tell you the same dialogue of accusing of conspiracy and will give you the bounty. After the conversation with Nepos, everyone in the house attacks the Dragonborn. Margret's Journal is inside her room in the end table next to the bed. He asks the Dragonborn to investigate Margret's background at the Silver-Blood Inn and Weylin's room in the Warrens. {End of story content} Spoiler. Margret will reward you for saving her and you will not get a bounty on your head. It is possible to save Margret in the market. In the market, Margret is looking at a pendant and saying how it would look lovely on her sister. Went back to Eltrys,saw 3 guards standing next to his body. Forum Posts. Eltrys is seeking information about the murder. The events leading to the Forsworn Conspiracy quest trigger the first time you enter Markarth. Then the guard came to me and,like "this is not your business - get outta here". User Lists: 0 #7 Edited By Simulacrum. Leveled (per piece of information) It's part of the quest. You can try to resist arrest or talk your way out of it; however, you must submit to being jailed in order to advance the quest to No One Escapes Cidhna Mine. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. If you are wanted in Markarth for a separate reason, you have to deal with the guards first, then leave the Shrine of Talos and come back. If you resist arrest, several waves of guards will attack you within the shrine. Nana and Donnel are actually undercover Forsworn agents, so it's safe to kill them. Of course after I finally completed the quest all the town guards bugged and initiated an infinite dialouge loop. Guard 1: Get out, or we'll kill you here. I have only just arrived in Markarth for the first time, and upon entering the city, Weylin does not attack Margret at all. Walkthrough: written by Beezer1029, not checked, Reward: written by EllEzDee, checked by Beezer1029. Iona and I … The way of gathering information about Margret changes, as do some dialogues, but the rest of the quest remains the same. Even if you have managed to kill them, they will respawn when The Reach resets itself. He will tell you to leave his house, threatening to call the guards otherwise. Started to investigate the case. You can ask to see Thonar, which prompts a Speech challenge, or you can just pick the lock on the door to the left of the front desk, bypassing Rhiada altogether. You definitely shouldn't resist the guards - the whole of Markarth guard is connected with the conspiracy. ", If Margret is alive, she will be seated by the fireplace. I was attempting to talk to Thonar but his servants started yelling 'for the forsworn' and attacked the remaining residents. You show up, he's dead, and the guards attempt to arrest you. The key isn't strictly necessary, since the lock can be picked. After receiving this quest and before meeting Eltrys at the temple for the first time, if the player pickpockets Thonar's journal, the quest will advance to stage 90, which leaves Eltrys dead in the temple. They will then attempt to apprehend the Dragonborn on sight. A mysterious note that a witness says you dropped will be given to you, asking to meet at the Shrine of Talos. The old man hands out the orders. If this happens, the follower will not leave even after you tell them to go home, and if they are moved elsewhere via console, they will walk back to the Shrine of Talos, no matter where in Skyrim they are. If you previously pickpocketed Thonar's journal, the quest will jump ahead and you'll find Eltrys dead with three angry guards at the shrine. You can follow the smelter lead to the Smelter Overseer's House to speak with Mulush gro-Shugurz. This can be fixed by going back to Nepos's house and killing everyone there. You are now directed to find out about Nepos the Nose. So I end up in prison, no problem getting a shiv and a pickax, and no problem getting to Madanach. Her attacker, a Breton witchblade named Weylin, will shout a rallying: "The Reach belongs to the Forsworn!" The Wiki says just sneak up behind him to kill him and not alert the others, then take his key and escape. She can be persuaded or intimidated, revealing that she is an Imperial investigator for General Tullius. She mentions Thonar Silver-Blood, which also activates the objective, "Find evidence about Thonar.". The other two guards will attack you, and because you are in conversation, there is no way to fight back, so be prepared. Looks important." "Forsworn Conspiracy" spoiler. Skip to 3:15 for the aftermath. I read about the glitch and that you can overcome it by pausing 24hrs and then talk to on of the guards to get the quest fixed. Storm: Fine, I'll come quietly. To continue with the Cidhna Mine part, speak to a city guard. Reading it will update the quest log. Return to Eltrys 14. Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:36 am. Even if both Forsworn attackers are dead, she is still murdered, even though there was no one to kill her. This page was last modified on 3 December 2020, at 18:42. He will give you some history on Madanach's position and political views. Margret can be saved if Weylin is killed before stabbing her. As with Margret's room at the Silver-Blood Inn, the lock on Weylin's door can be picked. When acquiring Weylin's Note from the chest, taking the note adds 'Read Weylin's Note' to your journal, even if you read the note before taking it. Solution: The bug can be avoided if one advances "The House Of Horrors" quest to the point that Vigilant Tyranus is killed, before entering the shrine. The death of Betrid Silver-Blood is scripted to occur upon speaking to Thonar to advance the quest. If you complete the negotiations between the Empire and the Stormcloaks and you choose to give Markarth to the Stormcloaks, you will not be able to complete this quest if you began it but did not meet with Eltrys. (Preventing the murder will affect the course of the quest; see notes below. Usual Thieves Guild options for buying one's way out are presented in dialogue with the guard, but the guard will refuse them. Some kind of note. This leaves a bounty in Markarth which fades as usual. With decent sneaking, the Dragonborn can kill him without alarming the Markarth guards. The guards there will now attempt to arrest you. When questioned further he will reveal a strong loyalty to "the King in Rags", Madanach, from whom he gets his orders. However, when you arrive Eltrys has been slain by a group of guards, who are now lying in wait for you. I think I heard someone mention it was underneath the Temple of Dibella, in the big crag in the center of the city.". Ask him about Weylin and tell him you need the key to Weylin's room. Obtain the key to Margret's room (optional) 5. Same thing happened to me. After finding out more info on Margret, one of the guards approached and threatened me to stay out of their business. Step 3: Open the console command and click on the dead guard you needed. Weylin's room is the last one on the right side. Find evidence about Weylin 4. ), Shortly after the scene in the marketplace, a Breton citizen named Eltrys will approach you and ask if you saw what happened. When you enter Nepos's house his housekeeper, Uaile, will step in to keep you from seeing Nepos. If you did not obtain the key to Margret's room from her corpse earlier, you can receive it through dialogue with Kleppr, steal it from behind the bar (or even just simply take it freely), or just pick the lock to her door. Killed him. Once the dialogue ends, proceed to the Warrens next. Bwast. The quest will be completed and Eltrys can be looted instantly. This is achieved by killing the guards in the shrine of Talos without allowing them to talk. Upon first entering Markarth, the Dragonborn is witness to an argument in the market. When the Dragonborn exits the Warrens, Dryston, a mercenary, will approach stating that the investigation has gone too far into somebody's business. They started to accuse me in things I haven't done. When you exit the Warrens, a Breton named Dryston will approach you, threatening: "You've been digging around where you don't belong. Return to Eltrys Another approach involves pickpocketing Thonar's Journal from him, so his wife doesn't die, and Donnel and Nana Ildene don't attack anyone. It all However, she is overruled by Nepos, and he invites you in for a chat. I've just been avoiding that quest for now on my new character. If you do save her, she rewards you with the pendant she just purchased. He will drop Dryston's Note, which will update the quest log when it is read. Find evidence about Nepos by going to Nepos' house. Stages are not always in order of progress. » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:24 pm . Yippee.. so I went to the talos shrine And was confronted by the guards.. instead of selectimg any answers, I exit the dialogue. Well, you wanted to find the man responsible for those killings? Quest Giver Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. 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